[QUOTE=LexBlair;350938]So in other words they pretty much handed CT/Wes and Em/Paula the win....[/QUOTE]
I don't it's fair to say they handed the girls the win, considering they likely would have won regardless.
[QUOTE=LexBlair;350938]So in other words they pretty much handed CT/Wes and Em/Paula the win....[/QUOTE]
If Johnny/Frank were that great they should be able to win an easy race, I dont think Frank is that good compared to CT and Wes, rivals 1 and exes were harder finals than anything else in the whole series, all Frank has done is an easy final, most of the cast cant handle those finals. I think those 2 teams probably didnt go in elimination at all, I wouldnt say they coasted cause everyone is saying their biggest competition is CT/Wes and since jordan/marlon dont know how to be subtle then I think that means they won the most and I guess Johnny/Frank won some too
[QUOTE=LexBlair;350938]So in other words they pretty much handed CT/Wes and Em/Paula the win....[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't count on CT, Wes, Emily or Paula finishing a puzzle. Actually pretty much every person in the final (I don't know the Portland guys or Cooke) are what I consider awful at puzzles. Johnny, sadly, may be the best of the bunch
I would also think speed would help out Cooke & Cara Maria more than Paula & Emily. Paula's strength is endurance.
[QUOTE=Blue123;350897]Was it 1 day? Do you know if they changed locations? Jordan kept saying it involved endurance, but since hes never done a final before, I guess a short race would be considered involving endurance to him, he seems like a runner though so I'm sure he could handle some endurance. I do think they are toning it down though, I dont think it will be as grueling as rivals 1[/QUOTE]
I would assume it was only 1 day, sounded like the final only took around 5 hours total.
[QUOTE=kvm1977;350950]I wouldn't count on CT, Wes, Emily or Paula finishing a puzzle. Actually pretty much [B]every person in the final[/B] (I don't know the Portland guys or Cooke) are what [B]I consider awful at puzzles[/B]. Johnny, sadly, may be the best of the bunch
I would also think speed would help out Cooke & Cara Maria more than Paula & Emily. Paula's strength is endurance.[/QUOTE]
Frank and (Wes) come to mind ...
Johnny though, self-admittedly sucks at puzzles, Camila completed 2 out of 3 puzzles all by herself on Exes...
Maybe saying it was handed to them was a bit harsh from me, but it was certainly tailored in a way that benefited CT/Wes(a 5-hour-final is EXTREMELY short, I cant even remember the last time, the final was [I]that[/I] short. Probably the Island but that was a whole another story...I believe even the Ruins was like 6-7 hours) Maybe it will be something like the FM1 final....
You have a point with the girls though, but considering the final was so incredibly short I imagine the puzzles were also more like mini-puzzles, (taking a considerably shorter amount of time to finish) which undoubtedly benefitted Em and Paula...
I wish vevmo's software had a feature which would force members to confront their own past commentary about specific show events like a finale when that episode finally airs. It would be fun to see people have to eat their words.
My own prediction is that Emily will hardly break a sweat in this finale. She is superwoman when compared to every single female cast member.
[QUOTE=V1man;350961]I wish vevmo's software had a feature which would force members to confront their own past commentary about specific show events like a finale when that episode finally airs. It would be fun to see people have to eat their words.
[B]My own prediction is that Emily will hardly break a sweat in this finale. She is superwoman when compared to every single female cast member.[/B][/QUOTE]
When did anyone say the opposite? She dedicates her life to fitness and is an absolute beast, but she sucks horribly at puzzles...(who knows though, perhaps after this challenge she will be known as the puzzle-champ....;)
[QUOTE=LexBlair;350964]When did anyone say the opposite? She dedicates her life to fitness and is an absolute beast, but she sucks horribly at puzzles...(who knows though, perhaps after this challenge she will be known as the puzzle-champ....;)[/QUOTE]
I'm not responding to any comment in what you copied in bold. It's simply my own opinion regarding her overall ability vs. every other woman in the cast. It is also consistent with something I wrote elsewhere at vevmo about Emily shortly after the cast was revealed in the official spoiler thread.
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Why do people (speaking generically) think something is always about or in response to them? I am capable of having an original thought now and then. Occasionally I like to prove Plato wrong.
[QUOTE=townie;350957]I would assume it was only 1 day, sounded like the final only took around 5 hours total.[/QUOTE]
Interesting how the Finals appear to be getting easier. I wonder if MTV told BMP to make the Finals easier or if BMP made the decision on their own.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;350970]Interesting how the Finals appear to be getting easier. I wonder if MTV told BMP to make the Finals easier or if BMP made the decision on their own.[/QUOTE]
I think they were trying to get it over and done with.
Consider the number of partners Challenges we've had, the length of time people are on the Challenge and the length of the episodes. They are trying to shorten the length of time to do the Challenge and to have episodes to broadcast by also getting people in and out of the area as quickly as possible.
The early Challenges, before Fresh Meat, had single eliminations out of a large pool of competitors and the hour long episodes.
[QUOTE=LexBlair;350938]So in other words they pretty much handed CT/Wes and Em/Paula the win....[/QUOTE]
You could argue having a Final like Rivals 1 and Exes would've been handing the win to Johnny/Frank. A shorter race makes the Final more unpredictable. It gives everyone a chance to win.
CT tweeted out the link of the extended sneak peek (was only up for a few minutes) and here it is:
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Quick summary in case it is taken down:
Sneak peak is not of the beginning, but between the first challenge and first jungle.
1. Wes organizes a night club party in the house because of the tension the night before with a big fight (occurred because of CT botching politics in an attempt to get Johnny and Frank sent in)
2. CT hooks up with Anastasia. Diem feels sorry for her since he is using her. It looks like the fight where Anastasia starts slapping him was left out of the sneak peak.
3. Naomi gets a call from home and her dad is in the hospital and leaves
4. They prepare for the first male jungle (Dunbar/Tyrie vs Robb/Derek, it isn't revealed who got last and who was voted in)
5. At the jungle before it starts, they have a cliffhanger of whether or not Cooke goes home. This is where the extended preview ends
So I don't know where this should go but CT briefly tweeted the link of the extended sneak peek before MTV made him take it down. It was only about 8 minutes or so long.
"Long as my b****es love me."
I can see Ana & Jessica being voted in because the hook-up rubbed a lot of the other girls the wrong way. A la Shauvon (The Duel).
Frank ct fight was probably before the pool scene between the two? Hard to say but the girls clearly factor in for the guys elimination aka cts strategy
Naomi seems to have matured a bit, nice to see. Really enjoyed the sneak peek and the feel of this season, but I said the same thing about Seasons, so let's wait and see. I agree though, I can see Ana and Jess getting thrown in for the hook-up with CT.
[QUOTE=Fresh Meat;351047]Naomi seems to have matured a bit, nice to see. Really enjoyed the sneak peek and the feel of this season, but I said the same thing about Seasons, so let's wait and see. I agree though,[B] I can see Ana and Jess getting thrown in for the hook-up with CT.[/QUOTE][/B]
Did anybody hear what Camila says when girls are looking at CT and Ana from the pool
Ok so its definitely, CT/Wes vs Frank/Johnny. So the fight was serious, thats interesting, much better than a dumb drunk fight. I wana know the plan was! This kinda shows how some ppl are not good at politics, Johnny/Wes/Ev/Evan/Kenny do this this kind of scheming all the time and it doesnt turn into that. And CT said "Frank, I'm not youre enemy" ew! Yes you are.
Also I wonder when the CT/Marlon/Ty fight happens, he wore that tank top in the team pictures but then you see Wes wearing CT's tank top on the 1st night, so I guess CT may wear the same clothes a lot so all those fights may not all be the same night
I was watching Frank's speedcast with Alex and ofcourse when Alex plays the trailer I'm like staring at Frank's face for a reaction, he reacted to Ana saying some ppl are evil and Johnny saying the sinking ship comment. And he basically said this challenge is all strategy and politics and how well you execute your plans with your partner, and he said thats why it was frustrating( giving away the fact that some things dont go his way) so Jordan was right about strategy. I guess Wes can now show us why he calls himself a strategic mastermind and I guess he might be by the way Frank was talking, cause I never saw CT as someone that can strategies and execute a plan without going nuts in the process.
And I thought it was funny how Frank and Alex's computers were out of sync and they were both talking at the same time and didnt even notice, or it just seems like that to us lol
And OMG! He's giving the definition of rivals! Some of you ppl kept saying that annoying BS on here too, Frank are you among us!? Show yourself!
Frank also said he stayed out of the drama for the most part hmm could it be because he didnt have zach behind him and it wasnt all rookies for him to talk crap to that he knew wouldnt fight back?
[QUOTE=jojorules;351085]Frank also said he stayed out of the drama for the most part hmm could it be because he didnt have zach behind him and it wasnt all rookies for him to talk crap to that he knew wouldnt fight back?[/QUOTE]
I think thats BS, I mean its frank,Im sure he did find a way to cause drama and get his camera time.
[QUOTE=stuufman;351087]I think thats BS, I mean its frank,Im sure he did find a way to cause drama and get his camera time.[/QUOTE]
of course he did, and obviously Zach didnt stick with him, why???? Bet it had to do with Frank being a *****. It sounds like he cant handle it, he said before the rookies wouldn't talk back and it sounds like hes hurt, hes saying its personal, come on, youre a man. He said Johnny doesnt take it personal but I do, hes such a woman, dont go around saying youre hurt when you were the guy that fought with girls. Guess now that men are fighting with him, he cant handle it. He even considered not doing any more shows cause of how ugly the game got, judging by BOTS and all the personal low blow attacks he did he should **** and handle it. I havent seen the show but we've seen men bully girls and guys all gang up on 1 guy and they werent acting this butthurt, he would never be able to handle being the under dog
[QUOTE=Blue123;351088]of course he did, and obviously Zach didnt stick with him, why???? Bet it had to do with Frank being a *****. It sounds like he cant handle it, he said before the rookies wouldn't talk back and it sounds like hes hurt, hes saying its personal, come on, youre a man. He said Johnny doesnt take it personal but I do, hes such a woman, dont go around saying youre hurt when you were the guy that fought with girls. Guess now that men are fighting with him, he cant handle it. [B]He even considered not doing any more shows cause of how ugly the game got,[/B] judging [B]by BOTS and all the personal low blow attacks he did he should **** and handle it. I havent seen the show but we've seen men bully girls and guys all gang up on 1 guy and they werent acting this butthurt, he would never be able to handle being the under dog[/B][/QUOTE]
I cant wait to see how this kid cracks under pressure,the fact he considered not coming back just shows how he cant handle the challenges, and I think it has to do with the fact that a) he didnt win and b) he didnt have the whole house kissing his ***.
[QUOTE=stuufman;351092]I cant wait to see how this kid cracks under pressure,the fact he considered not coming back just shows how he cant handle the challenges, and I think it has to do with the fact that a) he didnt win and b) he didnt have the whole house kissing his ***.[/QUOTE]
Lmao oh my god I can't wait until this season airs just so that everyone can see how scared Frank was when a couple of Vets stepped in the house. It's going to be so awesome man I mean do you see how much Frank sub-tweets about CT? And CT hasn't even mentioned Frank on his twitter or anything because he knows he won the war, and easily might I add.
Frank goes in a challenge filled with a bunch of rookies and thinks he's the man. Then he goes to a challenge with a couple of vets who make him their ****** and is now scared to do anymore challenges. Good riddance.
[QUOTE=JayTee;351095]Lmao oh my god I can't wait until this season airs just so that everyone can see how scared Frank was when a couple of Vets stepped in the house. It's going to be so awesome man I mean do you see how much Frank sub-tweets about CT? And CT hasn't even mentioned Frank on his twitter or anything because he knows he won the war, and easily might I add.
Frank goes in a challenge filled with a bunch of rookies and thinks he's the man. Then he goes to a challenge with a couple of vets who make him their ****** and is now scared to do anymore challenges. Good riddance.[/QUOTE]
While i agree frank is only disgusted with violence and drama this time because the vets are around and he clearly wont pull the same stuff he did on seasons, he said he was hesitant but would come back again but doesnt want to do them forever... So he is open to return for one more sorry to dissapoint but he also said depends on timing
Almost every castmember has said this season is insane i am excited and hope its good.
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