Don't know how well your sports lingo is but Dan Marino is one of the best qbs of all time and never won a superbowl. Allen Iverson is one of the best basketball players of all time and never won a championship. Are you really going to say joe flacco is better than dan marino because he won a superbowl? Or Peyton manning and joe flacco are equal. The bottom line is winning doesn't always determine how good somebody is. Stats do, and CT always outperforms his competitors in missions (not every mission but as in the whole season) and elimination rounds.
I agree, there are too many factors involved in this game (outright loyalty from alliances, or people playing scared, for example) for a pure win to mean more than mission stats. It just doesn't seem to work that way.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;351593]Don't know how well your sports lingo is but Dan Marino is one of the best qbs of all time and never won a superbowl. Allen Iverson is one of the best basketball players of all time and never won a championship. Are you really going to say joe flacco is better than dan marino because he won a superbowl? Or Peyton manning and joe flacco are equal. The bottom line is winning doesn't always determine how good somebody is. Stats do, and CT always outperforms his competitors in missions (not every mission but as in the whole season) and elimination rounds.[/QUOTE]
I don't really watch sports so the analogy is lost on me..But I get what you're saying though.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;351592]If he was such a strong ****** competitor why hasn't he won until now?[/QUOTE]
Because to design a challenge that the strongest person would win would not meet the fairness test of the Game Show Act unless the stated purpose of the challenge was to determine the strongest person. It's not, and that's the law.
hey I agree with you on ct but don't bash joe flacco he is a really good qb and is unfairly trashed on.on the ct matter though your 100 percent correct though.
[QUOTE=ldrill28;351610]hey I agree with you on ct but don't bash joe flacco he is a really good qb and is unfairly trashed on.on the ct matter though your 100 percent correct though.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't trying to bash him, he was just first to come in mind... how about trent difler?
[QUOTE=Debut Album;351606]I don't really watch sports so the analogy is lost on me..But I get what you're saying though.[/QUOTE]
Cool, as long as my point was understood.
I just got back from Europe for 2 weeks and wasn't able to get on here very often, but I just watched that awful challenge mania thing with Kenny and Snooki and noticed in the sneak peak at the end that Jordan & Marlon take out Ty & Leroy. Have we been made aware of any other Jungles? Because so far I only know:
Dunbar & Tyrie vs. Derek & Robb
Anastasia & Jessica vs. Cara Maria & Cooke
Derek & Robb vs. Knight & Preston
Trey & Zach vs. Knight & Preston (this hasn't been shown in any trailers, but it is said that it does happen)
Leroy & Ty vs. Jordan & Marlon
So I don't know who takes out:
Sarah & Trishelle, Jasmine & Theresa, Jonna & Nany, Knight & Preston, or Aneesa & Diem.
Does anyone know?
[QUOTE=TheCloser;351593]Don't know how well your sports lingo is but Dan Marino is one of the best qbs of all time and never won a superbowl. Allen Iverson is one of the best basketball players of all time and never won a championship. Are you really going to say joe flacco is better than dan marino because he won a superbowl? Or Peyton manning and joe flacco are equal. The bottom line is winning doesn't always determine how good somebody is. Stats do, and CT always outperforms his competitors in missions (not every mission but as in the whole season) and elimination rounds.[/QUOTE]
The one problem I have with this analogy is that you called CT the best competitor to ever appear on the Challenge. If you had said the best physical competitor, then I'd be more likely to agree. As we all know, the Challenge isn't just about the physical. There are puzzles and other various types of eliminations. There's the mental game and alliances such as in Survivor. CT isn't that bright. He's not good at puzzles. And he DQ's in a lot of challenges for not following simple instructions (i.e. against Brad). There are a lot of others who might not be on par with CT physically but have a more well rounded game which would put them ahead of him as best of all time. So best of all time physically is what I'd give him. Not best of all time.
Did anyone else catch Laurel's interview about rivals 2 its up on youtube. It was a good interview she stated shes seen episode 1 already lucky her, also gave her thoughts and predictions.
[QUOTE=Lostcity;351629]Did anyone else catch Laurel's interview about rivals 2 its up on youtube. It was a good interview [B]she stated shes seen episode 1 already lucky her,[/B] also gave her thoughts and predictions.[/QUOTE]
She was reffering to the special with Kenny
[QUOTE=Lostcity;351629]Did anyone else catch Laurel's interview about rivals 2 its up on youtube. It was a good interview she stated shes seen episode 1 already lucky her, also gave her thoughts and predictions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=goodgirl;351630]She was reffering to the special with Kenny[/QUOTE]
I thought she was referring to the actual episode cause she said she cant give anything away and she referred to the craziness. I think her predictions were fake, she knows whats going to happen. I thought it was funny she said Johnny made this his job, lol wtf is he going to do after the next one. I'm surprised she said Wes can be "sweet" sometimes, since when? Or at least I dont remember him being nice to Laurel, guess he was nice to Cara, and she said its easy to just blame him instead of themselves or something else, again when? Maybe she was refering to Paula's involvement in the coke incident.But that was odd comming form her Of course I'm trying to take everything she said and see how it applies to this challenge, all of them base what they say on what they secretly know
[QUOTE=Blue123;351634]I thought she was referring to the actual episode cause she said she cant give anything away and she referred to the craziness. I think her predictions were fake, she knows whats going to happen. I thought it was funny she said Johnny made this his job, lol wtf is he going to do after the next one. I'm surprised she said Wes can be "sweet" sometimes, since when? Or at least I dont remember him being nice to Laurel, guess he was nice to Cara, and she said its easy to just blame him instead of themselves or something else, again when? Maybe she was refering to Paula's involvement in the coke incident.But that was odd comming form her Of course I'm trying to take everything she said and see how it applies to this challenge, all of them base what they say on what they secretly know[/QUOTE]
Maybe she was referring to an actual episode but i don't think that even castmembers see those before it actually airs and she is not involved with the production,i thought she was talking about craziness in the trailers/promos.As for Wes everyone say that he is an alright guy when cameras aren't rolling.I doubt Laurel knows everything about everything and was hinting it all time,she was probably speaking from personal experience.Also did anyone listen Alexandra Govere spreecast with Trey ,he was bashing Johnny
Pretty sure she meant she has seen episode 1 already , but that's a curious question I always had do cast members see the season before it airs or do they watch as we watch?
[QUOTE=goodgirl;351635]Maybe she was referring to an actual episode but i don't think that even castmembers see those before it actually airs and she is not involved with the production,i thought she was talking about craziness in the trailers/promos.As for Wes everyone say that he is an alright guy when cameras aren't rolling.I doubt Laurel knows everything about everything and was hinting it all time,she was probably speaking from personal experience.Also did anyone listen Alexandra Govere spreecast with Trey ,he was bashing Johnny[/QUOTE]
Ya I was wondering why she would be able to see it, I know that if they had to do an after show then the cast involved in the after show sees it early but shes not even on the show. But she referred to craziness and theres nothing crazy shown in the sneek peak so I guess she may have seen it. About Wes, ya others like him but he was still rude to Laurel on twitter and they would bicker every now and then but that was a long time ago. Can you post the link to Trey's speedcast, I woulnt be surprised if Zach/Trey dont like Johnny, they dont even like Frank, and I'm sure Johnny/Frank had something to do with them going home
[QUOTE=Lostcity;351636]Pretty sure she meant she has seen episode 1 already , but that's a curious question I always had do cast members see the season before it airs or do they watch as we watch?[/QUOTE]
Frank said they watch it as we watch it ,maybe it was diffrent back in the days,who knows
[QUOTE=Blue123;351638]Ya I was wondering why she would be able to see it, I know that if they had to do an after show then the cast involved in the after show sees it early but shes not even on the show. But she referred to craziness and theres nothing crazy shown in the sneek peak so I guess she may have seen it. About Wes, ya others like him but he was still rude to Laurel on twitter and they would bicker every now and then but that was a long time ago. Can you post the link to Trey's speedcast, I woulnt be surprised if Zach/Trey dont like Johnny, they dont even like Frank, and I'm sure Johnny/Frank had something to do with them going home[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.spreecast.com/events/chat-with-mtvs-trey-weatherholtz--3]Chat with MTV's Trey Weatherholtz - Spreecast[/url] here it is,from some reason sometimes it doesn't work for me
I recently just watched Frank's spreecast with Alex from his season.and I was surprised at some of the things he said.
Basically he talked about the Portland kids,CT and Zach.
He said he likes Jordan and that Jordan is a great guy, but very opinionated and not afraid to let you know how he feels. He also, talked alot of *** about Marlon, he said Marlon doesn't know how to handle situations well etc. So I guess Frank and Marlon have got into alot of arguments. He said that Ana hooking up with CT is probably the worst mistake she have ever made in her life. And he really didn't have much to say about Jessica. He said that this seasons has alot of drama and was one of the most dramatic times of his life. He also, said he is unsure if he'll do another one he said most likely he would do another one but, it will most likely be his last.
Oh and I forgot to mention he also hinted that Zach and him are not friends anymore and that Johnny is very loud and plays the game very open so everyone knows what he is doing.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;351611]I wasn't trying to bash him, he was just first to come in mind... how about trent difler?[/QUOTE]
Haha good I am a ravens fan and I know that guy sucked *** lol.
[QUOTE=Fullback12;351641]I recently just watched Frank's spreecast with Alex from his season.and I was surprised at some of the things he said.
Basically he talked about the Portland kids,CT and Zach.
He said he likes Jordan and that Jordan is a great guy, but very opinionated and not afraid to let you know how he feels. He also, talked alot of *** about Marlon, he said Marlon doesn't know how to handle situations well etc. So I guess Frank and Marlon have got into alot of arguments. He said that Ana hooking up with CT is probably the worst mistake she have ever made in her life. And he really didn't have much to say about Jessica. He said that this seasons has alot of drama and was one of the most dramatic times of his life. He also, said he is unsure if he'll do another one he said most likely he would do another one but, it will most likely be his last.[/QUOTE]
Jordan also did the spreecast and he said that he and Frank also argued , what i found intresting is that Frank said how they had no A/C half of the time there and that's what made everyone so nervous and disguisted of each other and how only really ****** girls wanted to be touched.Do we know if they have a location change this season or are they in Thailand the whole time?
I have no idea, but I'm concerned why Frank and Marlon butted heads... Marlon seems kind of chill. I guess Franklin must've gotten under Marlon's skin.
[QUOTE=goodgirl;351640][URL="http://www.spreecast.com/events/chat-with-mtvs-trey-weatherholtz--3"]Chat with MTV's Trey Weatherholtz - Spreecast[/URL] here it is,from some reason sometimes it doesn't work for me[/QUOTE]
yea doesnt work for me either...odd.
[QUOTE=Fullback12;351647]I have no idea, but I'm concerned why Frank and Marlon butted heads... Marlon seems kind of chill. I guess Franklin must've gotten under Marlon's skin.[/QUOTE]
I doubt they butted heads,Marlon said in some interview he didn't fought,i just think Frank doesn't like him
[QUOTE=Fullback12;351647]I have no idea, but I'm concerned why Frank and Marlon butted heads... Marlon seems kind of chill. I guess Franklin must've gotten under Marlon's skin.[/QUOTE]
Well Marlon said on a podcast that CT was one of his closest friends in the house and we know now that Frank and CT butted heads multiple times maybe Marlon was more on the CT side than his side which Frank doesn't like at all.
[QUOTE=Lostcity;351636]Pretty sure she meant she has seen episode 1 already , but that's a curious question I always had do cast members see the season before it airs or do they watch as we watch?[/QUOTE]
Production gets copies of each episode about a week before the actual air-date and they usually leak it to the cast members... some of the vets have really good relationships with crew members, some are even friends... these vets leak the copies to others if they feel like it....if people can't stand you, you lucked out...
I didn't think she was that full of herself. She seems like a normal person. I like her honesty about the cast. Her predictions are pretty spot on too. I wonder if she reads the spoilers because she seemed to hesitate on a few questions as to not give too much away. Then again, that could have to do with her viewing the first episode already.
[QUOTE=LexBlair;351653]Production gets copies of each episode about a week before the actual air-date and they usually leak it to the cast members... some of the vets have really good relationships with crew members, some are even friends... these vets leak the copies to others if they feel like it....if people can't stand you, you lucked out...[/QUOTE]
Oh ok that interesting, maybe cara maria got a copy of episode 1 and passed it to Laurel since they are friends.
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