The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

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[QUOTE=jones10389;351383]I don't get why people think It would be impossible fot Zach to defeat CT in a 1 on 1. If they ever go head to head in a wall brawl type game or x Battle there is a really good chance CT would lose.[/QUOTE] Because CT has much more strength. I've heard of CT's regimen in the gym, and based off of what Zach did at the gym on his RW season, he doesn't compare. He's a wide receiver. They train in more agility than in strength.
[QUOTE=Lostcity;351388]My thoughts exactly too many ppl act like Ct is unbeatable, I wouldnt be shocked if zack would beat him or even Tyler played him to a draw.[/QUOTE] If you go back to older challenges Evan beat CT on almost half the missions on Duel 1. On the INferno 2 LAndon out performed CT in alot of missons so he is not unbeatable.
Mission and elimination rounds are different. I think people don't believe CT can be beat in an elimination round unless it is a technicality. Personally, Landon & CT would be the best matchup ever unless size mattered IMO
[QUOTE=jones10389;351391]If you go back to older challenges Evan beat CT on almost half the missions on Duel 1. On the INferno 2 LAndon out performed CT in alot of missons so he is not unbeatable.[/QUOTE] To be fair, CT DQ at like 3 times usually cause he didnt listen to the rules, then Evan would win cause he was 2nd
You guys make me laugh... the only people in challenge history who could take CT out in an elimination in something physical is Evan or Mark in his prime. No one else Zach could barely beat CJ who is at least 35-40lbs lighter than him and He would destroy Tyler... matter of fact CJ won 3 times in the elimination while Zach only won twice. But, due to the fact when Zach won his rounds he ultimately won the elimination.
Actually I'll put a list for you of people Zach can't beat in something physical 1.CT 2.Evan 3.Leroy 4.Mark (in his prime)
[QUOTE=Fullback12;351395]You guys make me laugh... the only people in challenge history who could take CT out in an elimination in something physical is Evan or Mark in his prime. No one else Zach could barely beat CJ who is at least 35-40lbs lighter than him and He would destroy Tyler... matter of fact CJ won 3 times in the elimination while Zach only won twice. But, due to the fact when Zach won his rounds he ultimately won the elimination.[/QUOTE] You're underestimating Landon. Darrell is in that conversation too. Depends on the elimination round with those 2. Throw in a puzzle and literally everyone COULD beat him
[QUOTE=Fullback12;351397]Actually I'll put a list for you of people Zach can't beat in something physical 1.CT 2.Evan 3.Leroy 4.Mark (in his prime)[/QUOTE] This list makes me laugh, leroy? the guy who get tossed by marlon, Mark has been in one elimination round so he has never been tested, truth is Ct has not really gone up against big guys in eliminations one on one. Tyler and Zack are the only guys heavier than Ct thats why I give them a chance. Cj is also no slouch some ppl act like Zack was in there with Preston, and Cj pulled Zack's legs in one of the rounds.
I think a lot of people can beat Zach. Zach is overrated..
[QUOTE=Fullback12;351397]Actually I'll put a list for you of people Zach can't beat in something physical 1.CT 2.Evan 3.Leroy 4.Mark (in his prime)[/QUOTE] Leroy? Did you not just see him get tossed aside like a rag doll by Marlon in the preview? I doubt he can beat Zach who is much bigger than him.
[QUOTE=jones10389;351391]If you go back to older challenges Evan beat CT on almost half the missions on Duel 1. On the INferno 2 LAndon out performed CT in alot of missons so he is not unbeatable.[/QUOTE] During Inferno 2, Landon and CT were on different teams, and you're right Landon often won but CT on the whole won more missions than Landon. I, however, agree with you that if an elimination round included a lot of climbing, Landon would give CT a hard time (as would someone like Alton). When CT fell off the rope on the helicopter challenge on Rivals 1, I just didn't see someone like Landon ever falling from a mission like that.
Jumping on the CT bandwagon... It has already been stated that during Rivals 1, the helicopter challenge was iffy. CT/Adam were the first to go (although not edited that way) and the helicopter was too close to the water causing it to drag and wipe around in the water. Not saying CT would not have still fallen but something to think about. There is a reason no one wants to go against him. Intimidation factor or not, he has been showned to back it up on more than one occasion.
I really wish Landon and even Mark Long would come back (though they aren't rivals, as far as I know). It would just give a good old-time feeling to the whole thing, watching them compete against the noobies. I like the new Real World season of people, but I can't help but feel that they are also taking the places of some old veterans that would be more appealing to watch. And, of course, there could be an awesome Landon-CT match up for everyone to enjoy. CT is a beast. Yes, he's beatable, but his bark is definitely just as good or even better than his bite, so few want to go against him one-on-one. I'd say that's almost as good as being unbeatable. ;)
Are yall forgetting that Marlon played D1 football for Texas Tech at linebacker
Marlon played D1 football at Texas tech and he was a linebacker.
Tyler is not bigger than CT by any means... I don't even know where you got that from Tyler even said that CT is bigger than him
Tyler is bigger but that doesn't always mean stronger. Pound for pound CT is stronger than him. Tyler fluctuates from 235 to 250. CT is 225 tops. As far as being a competitor, CT is the best to ever appear on the challenge.
[QUOTE=TheCloser;351471]Tyler is bigger but that doesn't always mean stronger. Pound for pound CT is stronger than him. Tyler fluctuates from 235 to 250. CT is 225 tops. As far as being a competitor, CT is the best to ever appear on the challenge.[/QUOTE] And yet he's just not now winning a challenge.
Excuse me what are you talking about in an interview Tyler said he was like 6'1 205 and that was after Rivals than they asked him about CT he said CT was 6'3 225... so there you go Tyler is not bigger than CT by any means.
God I love the who is bigger than who debate, CT hasnt won because he was put on ****** teams and he punched people in the face. I have no idea how you people know how many pounds these people weigh and in the trailer when theyre walking in Zach looks a lot bigger than CT -adding fuel to the fire
There is no debate... Zach is bigger than CT and CT is bigger than Tyler end of discussion.
Ct hasn't won because he's gotten kicked off of 2 challenges for violence. He lost to Brad in the duel over a stupid DQ. The inferno 2 his team lost because of the girls on that team. CT is a great competitor and I'm glad he finally wins because he deserves it.
[QUOTE=Fullback12;351487]There is no debate... Zach is bigger than CT and CT is bigger than Tyler end of discussion.[/QUOTE] Take off your ct goggles and go watch cuthroat and rivals and if it isnt evident that tyler is heavier then Ct then your just delirious. You do realize im talking about Tyler and not Ty. This whole thing has gotten off topic im done speaking about this.
CT is 225 and even Bananas refers to Tyler as being about 250 lbs
Why are you guys obsessed with how much someone weighs? CT won this challenge and Tyler won the last 2 he was on. How much each one of them weighs is irrelevant unless they go into an elimination round to see who weighs the most.
[QUOTE=TheFeedMachi;351494]Why are you guys obsessed with how much someone weighs? CT won this challenge and Tyler won the last 2 he was on. How much each one of them weighs is irrelevant unless they go into an elimination round to see who weighs the most.[/QUOTE] :applause:
Hmmm I wonder what team took Knight/Preston out... Most likely Marlon/Jordan
A little late but did anyone else notice on the preview special last week, Cara Maria was on and it said under her name "Rivals II"? People who do not know about her being a replacement probably didn't even notice, I just thought it was a funny spoiler mistake.
[QUOTE=Debut Album;351475]And yet he's just not now winning a challenge.[/QUOTE] What does winning have to with it?
[QUOTE=TheCloser;351582]What does winning have to with it?[/QUOTE] If he was such a strong ****** competitor why hasn't he won until now?

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