So I watched the We ♡ Diem special does the fact that Evan was on there mean that he may be in good graces with MTV and have a chance at coming back on a challenge?
So I watched the We ♡ Diem special does the fact that Evan was on there mean that he may be in good graces with MTV and have a chance at coming back on a challenge?
Cj's appearance on Fresh Meat 2 was not reflective of his sole abilities because his partner negated any type of impressive demonstration he might have been able to put on because the way most of those challenges were structured made it so that you were only able to get as far as your weak link;which usually came down to the girl. also the possibility that CJ was also training a lot harder for Seasons because he was not happy with his results in FM2 even though taht was out of control. do i think frank is a great competitor? absolutely...but you cant deny that CJ put up a similarly great showing on BOTseasons, especially in is last elimination round against Zach. No one knows or has seen Frank do something like that yet. prior to that elimination, CJ was consistently putting up top performances throughout the entire season and IMO, he also had less ignition in his car with his inferior teammates. i think jonna = ashley kelsey and jasmine = sam but derek is way behind zach. individually cancun was a weaker team than san diego but collectively they were just as good.
So I watched the We ♡ Diem special does the fact that Evan was on there mean that he may be in good graces with MTV and have a chance at coming back on a challenge?
I like Tori and feel that a lot of the times she got mad or upset (Gauntlet 3 going against Melinda/Brad being voted in by Camila) was justifiable. I just feel that the way she would come off is *****y and condesending. She had rights to be upset certain times but would be overally upset and dramatic which then causes people to hate her. It seems like she doesn't have the right mentality for these shows which is why she over does it sometimes coming off at a *****. I wouldn't mind her coming back at all.
To clarify--she voted in Camila multiple times but she had the right to be pissed that Camila voted in people she cared about....yes, she's a *****. Thanks for making the argument for me.
Let's just be real--she's a *****. Always has been always will be.
Camila was brand new and was outside of her circle so Tori voting her in multiple times was not a surprise. Like I said the way she comes off makes her look like a ***** but I don't think she did anything wrong voting her multiple times especially later on when Camila was causing drama for the team. I think Tori mainly got mad from her voting Brad in was because Camila voted in her for husband. I don't think Tori cared much on the game aspect but saw it as this girl who she already doesn't like is voting her husband in to possibly send him home. I don't think Tori would have been as upset had she voted in Dunbar or Tyler. Btw I like Camila a lot more than Tori but I feel like Tori gets a lot of uneccesary hate from people on here who probably never met her before.
This isn't an edit with Tori. Tori is who she is. People don't think differently about her outside the show. This is a game--Brad deserved to be voted in--in fact he should have been. Camila wasn't causing drama on the team...Tori, per usual, was. It isn't "everyone else" that's the problem. It is Tori.
I don't care that Tori voted in Camila & Brandon multiple times--that's the game. I care that she's willing to play the game but isn't willing to let others. She's just a *****. There's no spinning this.
Brad shot himself in the foot from the beginning by putting Brianna into the Ruins instead of Casey so making deals with JEK was just whatever after that. The game could have turned out differently if Casey was gone instead of Brianna. I forgot about the fight with Darrell and the wedgie with the Miz. The wedgie thing was meh to me. It was just a drunken argument. The fight in the Ruins though....both parties are to blame.
Exactly both parties are to blame. So Brad was still disgraceful.[/quote]
I would have said that but there's a video of those two squashing it. Also, they said in their interviews that they regret that it happened between those two
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So what??? Of course they're gonna squash it. I'm not talking about the afterm,atch im talking about Brad during the Ruins. He was disgraceful. oh and is there an actual video of brad and Darrell squashing it together or are you talking about there interviews?
Brad shot himself in the foot from the beginning by putting Brianna into the Ruins instead of Casey so making deals with JEK was just whatever after that. The game could have turned out differently if Casey was gone instead of Brianna. I forgot about the fight with Darrell and the wedgie with the Miz. The wedgie thing was meh to me. It was just a drunken argument. The fight in the Ruins though....both parties are to blame.
Exactly both parties are to blame. So Brad was still disgraceful.
I would have said that but there's a video of those two squashing it. Also, they said in their interviews that they regret that it happened between those two
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So what??? Of course they're gonna squash it. I'm not talking about the afterm,atch im talking about Brad during the Ruins. He was disgraceful. oh and is there an actual video of brad and Darrell squashing it together or are you talking about there interviews?
I think that Zach gets slept on as far as confessionals. In those he's usually halarious. I remember on Rivals 2 he was talking about how The whole Aneesa/Trishelle Debacle was like a Twisted version of The Golden Girls.
I think that Zach gets slept on as far as confessionals. In those he's usually halarious. I remember on Rivals 2 he was talking about how The whole Aneesa/Trishelle Debacle was like a Twisted version of The Golden Girls.
Agreed. Zach had a lot of hilarious confessionals on Rivals 2. He is a funny guy.
I think that Zach gets slept on as far as confessionals. In those he's usually halarious. I remember on Rivals 2 he was talking about how The whole Aneesa/Trishelle Debacle was like a Twisted version of The Golden Girls.
Agreed. Zach had a lot of hilarious confessionals on Rivals 2. He is a funny guy.
I've grown to like Zack on the Challenge. Hated him on his season of RW but he's a little better now
I don't know if I've said this already but aside from the "This game is Ugly! The Inner circle is ugly!" thing from Battle of the Sexes 1 I've never found Rachel(Campus Crawl) Entertaining and don't get why she was asked back so many times.
I agree aside from that moment and being a great competitor, her other fun moment is sarcastically saying "The house is just gonna have to learn to deal with my character" in Exes. Shes probably one of the more bland castmembers, especially with the top females.
I agree aside from that moment and being a great competitor, her other fun moment is sarcastically saying "The house is just gonna have to learn to deal with my character" in Exes. Shes probably one of the more bland castmembers, especially with the top females.
Yeah she is pretty bland. I've never cared for her. If she is there then cool but if she isn't then whatever is how I feel about her.
Rachel had a threesome with Abram & Veronica, was part of the mean girls against Beth, plotted against Sarah, hooked up with Jenn causing friction between Jenn & Aneesa, tried to flip the entire Island cast against Bananas,...the list goes on and on. Rachel boring--smh. And this is even before we talk about her being a strong competitor.
Rachel had a threesome with Abram & Veronica, was part of the mean girls against Beth, plotted against Sarah, hooked up with Jenn causing friction between Jenn & Aneesa, tried to flip the entire Island cast against Bananas,...the list goes on and on. Rachel boring--smh. And this is even before we talk about her being a strong competitor.
Plus she was at the forefront of getting trying to get Angela out on BOTSexes 2.
Rachel had a threesome with Abram & Veronica, was part of the mean girls against Beth, plotted against Sarah, hooked up with Jenn causing friction between Jenn & Aneesa, tried to flip the entire Island cast against Bananas,...the list goes on and on. Rachel boring--smh. And this is even before we talk about her being a strong competitor.
Lol okay. you're right, good points. I guess I meant she wasn't boring, I personally just didn't care for her.
Rachel had a threesome with Abram & Veronica, was part of the mean girls against Beth, plotted against Sarah, hooked up with Jenn causing friction between Jenn & Aneesa, tried to flip the entire Island cast against Bananas,...the list goes on and on. Rachel boring--smh. And this is even before we talk about her being a strong competitor.
Lol okay. you're right, good points. I guess I meant she wasn't boring, I personally just didn't care for her.
Not liking someone is fine but she's far from bland/boring/etc
Rachel had a threesome with Abram & Veronica, was part of the mean girls against Beth, plotted against Sarah, hooked up with Jenn causing friction between Jenn & Aneesa, tried to flip the entire Island cast against Bananas,...the list goes on and on. Rachel boring--smh. And this is even before we talk about her being a strong competitor.
Plus she was at the forefront of getting trying to get Angela out on BOTSexes 2.
Eh. Aside from the threesome and the Mean Girls thing(which really Veronica made IMO) None of that was memorable or even intersting. At least in my mind.
A lot of those are moments for others...she causes drama but she still remains boring with her tone, demeanor, etc. Her causing friction on Duel 2 was interesting because of Aneesa/Jenn and their personalities. I don't really count hook ups unless it's a memorable pairing ala CT/Diem or even to a lesser extent. I guess maybe she's just monotone so she makes everything she does seem boring/lack interest even as a mean girl.
rachel is a robot. she is unshakeably stoic in every and any situation-i dont think i've seen her freak out.....like ever. i used to find it icy and vaguely sociopathic beacuse its almost like she's hopped up on a good dose of ketamine at all times, but you cant deny the the refreshingly levelheaded disposition, considering the whole gamut of emotions that are alrady hyperbolically displayed by practically every other single overdramatic female character in every episode. between laurel, tori, camila, ev, jenn, Frank, etc. these lil ladies more than meet(and exceed) the quota of emotional outburts needed per season.
A lot of those are moments for others...she causes drama but she still remains boring with her tone, demeanor, etc. Her causing friction on Duel 2 was interesting because of Aneesa/Jenn and their personalities. I don't really count hook ups unless it's a memorable pairing ala CT/Diem or even to a lesser extent. I guess maybe she's just monotone so she makes everything she does seem boring/lack interest even as a mean girl.
This won't be popular. But Jenn/Rachel & the threesome was far more interesting than CT/Diem.
There aren't many from the golden era that I didn't like (there were some like Julie who I didn't like on The Inferno but she really wasn't that bad) but 2 of them would be David (Seattle) & Montana (Boston)
David was awful on every season he did. Very entitled despite not really doing much of shit to actually HELP the teams he was on & also selfish. He knew Derrick would've kicked his *** in the Gauntlet & he knew that he was the one who should've been in. Also just couldn't believe Coral would pick him to go in the Inferno over Mike/CT ('nuff said) & Syrus (who performed very well up til that point).
Montana was awful herself:
Challenge 98 - Sat out of the mission but chastised Beth for not wanting to do it & was very whiny throughout the season imo
Gauntlet - Decided that the team sent her in because they didn't know her/like her, because it just couldn't possibly be her "stellar" performance.
Gauntlet 2 - Her entire storyline was Beth. Every confessional she did except for the one in episode 1 was about Beth. She reignited the entire feud between them in the first place with her being unecessarily childish (even said herself she only sat out just because she didn't want Beth to have it). She kept going on & on about how Beth said how good of a runner she was & got shown up when Beth actually did do well in that mission.
The one I hate the most out of that era is Syrus. I have always found him annoying and his Gauntlet with Derrick was cringeworthy with all of his *****ing.
As for David and Montana, I have never minded them. To me Montana is a non-entity and I find her to be harmless.
The one I hate the most out of that era is Syrus. I have always found him annoying and his Gauntlet with Derrick was cringeworthy with all of his *****ing.
As for David and Montana, I have never minded them. To me Montana is a non-entity and I find her to be harmless.
I didn't either until I went back & looked at those seasons + saw Challenge 98 & 2000 for the first time. Montana was just very petty for her age, moreso than Beth ever was imo & David was basically a toned-down Vinny.
The one I hate the most out of that era is Syrus. I have always found him annoying and his Gauntlet with Derrick was cringeworthy with all of his *****ing.
As for David and Montana, I have never minded them. To me Montana is a non-entity and I find her to be harmless.
The one I hate the most out of that era is Syrus. I have always found him annoying and his Gauntlet with Derrick was cringeworthy with all of his *****ing.
As for David and Montana, I have never minded them. To me Montana is a non-entity and I find her to be harmless.
David-Seattle and Montana-Boston are two of my least favorites of all time as well.
I actually agree, David is one of the most annoying challengers ever ughhh so glad he's not coming back and Montana is irrelevant in every way possible
So I watched the We ♡ Diem special does the fact that Evan was on there mean that he may be in good graces with MTV and have a chance at coming back on a challenge?
Cj's appearance on Fresh Meat 2 was not reflective of his sole abilities because his partner negated any type of impressive demonstration he might have been able to put on because the way most of those challenges were structured made it so that you were only able to get as far as your weak link;which usually came down to the girl. also the possibility that CJ was also training a lot harder for Seasons because he was not happy with his results in FM2 even though taht was out of control. do i think frank is a great competitor? absolutely...but you cant deny that CJ put up a similarly great showing on BOTseasons, especially in is last elimination round against Zach. No one knows or has seen Frank do something like that yet. prior to that elimination, CJ was consistently putting up top performances throughout the entire season and IMO, he also had less ignition in his car with his inferior teammates. i think jonna = ashley kelsey and jasmine = sam but derek is way behind zach. individually cancun was a weaker team than san diego but collectively they were just as good.
I hope not.
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I would have said that but there's a video of those two squashing it. Also, they said in their interviews that they regret that it happened between those two
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So what??? Of course they're gonna squash it. I'm not talking about the afterm,atch im talking about Brad during the Ruins. He was disgraceful. oh and is there an actual video of brad and Darrell squashing it together or are you talking about there interviews?
I would have said that but there's a video of those two squashing it. Also, they said in their interviews that they regret that it happened between those two
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So what??? Of course they're gonna squash it. I'm not talking about the afterm,atch im talking about Brad during the Ruins. He was disgraceful. oh and is there an actual video of brad and Darrell squashing it together or are you talking about there interviews?
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Receipt: http://www.mtv.com/shows/rwrr_challenge_theruins/the-ruins-ep-8-after-sh...
I think that Zach gets slept on as far as confessionals. In those he's usually halarious. I remember on Rivals 2 he was talking about how The whole Aneesa/Trishelle Debacle was like a Twisted version of The Golden Girls.
Agreed. Zach had a lot of hilarious confessionals on Rivals 2. He is a funny guy.
I've grown to like Zack on the Challenge. Hated him on his season of RW but he's a little better now
I don't know if I've said this already but aside from the "This game is Ugly! The Inner circle is ugly!" thing from Battle of the Sexes 1 I've never found Rachel(Campus Crawl) Entertaining and don't get why she was asked back so many times.
I agree aside from that moment and being a great competitor, her other fun moment is sarcastically saying "The house is just gonna have to learn to deal with my character" in Exes. Shes probably one of the more bland castmembers, especially with the top females.
Yeah she is pretty bland. I've never cared for her. If she is there then cool but if she isn't then whatever is how I feel about her.
I think its because despite her being pretty mellow, Rachel always seems to be in the midst of some type of drama due to her associations.
Rachel had a threesome with Abram & Veronica, was part of the mean girls against Beth, plotted against Sarah, hooked up with Jenn causing friction between Jenn & Aneesa, tried to flip the entire Island cast against Bananas,...the list goes on and on. Rachel boring--smh. And this is even before we talk about her being a strong competitor.
Plus she was at the forefront of getting trying to get Angela out on BOTSexes 2.
Lol okay. you're right, good points. I guess I meant she wasn't boring, I personally just didn't care for her.
Not liking someone is fine but she's far from bland/boring/etc
Eh. Aside from the threesome and the Mean Girls thing(which really Veronica made IMO) None of that was memorable or even intersting. At least in my mind.
A lot of those are moments for others...she causes drama but she still remains boring with her tone, demeanor, etc. Her causing friction on Duel 2 was interesting because of Aneesa/Jenn and their personalities. I don't really count hook ups unless it's a memorable pairing ala CT/Diem or even to a lesser extent. I guess maybe she's just monotone so she makes everything she does seem boring/lack interest even as a mean girl.
Honestly. Veronica WAS The mean girls. Rachel and Tina were just playing second fiddle to her in that for the most part.
rachel is a robot. she is unshakeably stoic in every and any situation-i dont think i've seen her freak out.....like ever. i used to find it icy and vaguely sociopathic beacuse its almost like she's hopped up on a good dose of ketamine at all times, but you cant deny the the refreshingly levelheaded disposition, considering the whole gamut of emotions that are alrady hyperbolically displayed by practically every other single overdramatic female character in every episode. between laurel, tori, camila, ev, jenn, Frank, etc. these lil ladies more than meet(and exceed) the quota of emotional outburts needed per season.
This won't be popular. But Jenn/Rachel & the threesome was far more interesting than CT/Diem.
There aren't many from the golden era that I didn't like (there were some like Julie who I didn't like on The Inferno but she really wasn't that bad) but 2 of them would be David (Seattle) & Montana (Boston)
David was awful on every season he did. Very entitled despite not really doing much of shit to actually HELP the teams he was on & also selfish. He knew Derrick would've kicked his *** in the Gauntlet & he knew that he was the one who should've been in. Also just couldn't believe Coral would pick him to go in the Inferno over Mike/CT ('nuff said) & Syrus (who performed very well up til that point).
Montana was awful herself:
Challenge 98 - Sat out of the mission but chastised Beth for not wanting to do it & was very whiny throughout the season imo
Gauntlet - Decided that the team sent her in because they didn't know her/like her, because it just couldn't possibly be her "stellar" performance.
Gauntlet 2 - Her entire storyline was Beth. Every confessional she did except for the one in episode 1 was about Beth. She reignited the entire feud between them in the first place with her being unecessarily childish (even said herself she only sat out just because she didn't want Beth to have it). She kept going on & on about how Beth said how good of a runner she was & got shown up when Beth actually did do well in that mission.
David-Seattle and Montana-Boston are two of my least favorites of all time as well.
The one I hate the most out of that era is Syrus. I have always found him annoying and his Gauntlet with Derrick was cringeworthy with all of his *****ing.
As for David and Montana, I have never minded them. To me Montana is a non-entity and I find her to be harmless.
I didn't either until I went back & looked at those seasons + saw Challenge 98 & 2000 for the first time. Montana was just very petty for her age, moreso than Beth ever was imo & David was basically a toned-down Vinny.
Confused by the Syrus hate
Confused by the Syrus hate
I actually agree, David is one of the most annoying challengers ever ughhh so glad he's not coming back and Montana is irrelevant in every way possible
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