How Do You know that diems really wins? cause jenn play the push over duel 2 times and won.. what if she wins again? and the one who goes on the next episode (after diems go home) is aneesa vs jenn?
and if is jenn the one who leaves the game this week, obviously she was the last standing, why she pick diem and not aneesa?
[quote] How Do You know that diems really wins? cause jenn play the push over duel 2 times and won.. what if she wins again?[/quote]
Well, for one thing, it already happened and was filmed, so I doubt the outcome will be changing.
If you're suggesting the spoiler may be incorrect, you might want to have something better to go on than that Jenn is good at push-over. People here tend to know what they're talking about in terms of spoilers.
[QUOTE=MrsPlumBean;76186]Well, for one thing, it already happened and was filmed, so I doubt the outcome will be changing.[/QUOTE]
And I thought I was the only one who crushed young dreams... ;)
hahaha yeah he crush my dream XD
but i was just asking, yes, i have read the spoilers that say that diem wins, but how do you know? or where you get the spoilers? cause i watch the trailer and the mid season trailer and i dont see nothing to prove it, maybe i dont see very well :D
[QUOTE=Henry;76242]hahaha yeah he crush my dream XD
but i was just asking, yes, i have read the spoilers that say that diem wins, but how do you know? or where you get the spoilers? cause i watch the trailer and the mid season trailer and i dont see nothing to prove it, maybe i dont see very well :D[/QUOTE]
Henry, we do our homework. If you as a viewer could prove it, then every website around would not be copying the spoiler info from vevmo.
Vevmo has independent sources for its information. Like any good group of journalists, the vevmo editorial staff does not name its sources. We've been wrong once in the past two years, when a cast member lied to us and said she was going to be on a challenge and she wasn't. Otherwise, we are about the best source around.
Mhhh ok i didnt know.. Thanks i was about to ask if someone of vevmo is friend of someone of the cast, but thaks... i though that you were just speculating from the trailer.. sorry my bad :P
[quote=tjhallow;74995]I think it has been said that Both Mark and Rachel never see a Duel.[/quote]
Yeah, and it sucks imo.
At least Mark is proven decent in the challenges, so him not being in the duel is tolerable. As for Rachel - (I brace for the pro-Rachel fans). Thus far through 7 episodes, she has been blah in regards to her competitive spirit. Still to this point, she hasn't won anything without Mark, and something tells me that she won't win the next challenge either, but saved by a reputation and an alliance. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt after a decent showing last week.
What bothers me is that she in her confessionals talk about how she's beaten everyone and how people aren't strong as they give off, or the crap about Aneesa. If she has all this animosity towards Aneesa, why didn't she have the vote switched to save Jenn and leave Aneesa last. [B]Why, because assuredly Aneesa would have probably called her out and beat her in a duel.[/B] Despite the Aneesa bashing outside of her present, she is game savy enough to not cause a ripple in the voting that will leave Jenn/Derek last.
I think the duels are almost predetermined, but not quite. I mean, for example, last week we saw Aneesa vs Paula in Back Off and Dunbar vs MJ in The Elevator. From the previews, we see this upcoming week Jenn vs Diem in Push Over and Evan vs Derek in Spot On. Rachel imo does not want to face Aneesa or Tori in Push Over, Back Off, or The Elevator. she'd imo lose all 3 to either player.
I think the Tori/Aneesa Duel will prove who is the strongest lb for lb.
[quote=Darock1713;76285]Yeah, and it sucks imo.
At least Mark is proven decent in the challenges, so him not being in the duel is tolerable. As for Rachel - (I brace for the pro-Rachel fans). Thus far through 7 episodes, she has been blah in regards to her competitive spirit. Still to this point, she hasn't won anything without Mark, and something tells me that she won't win the next challenge either, but saved by a reputation and an alliance. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt after a decent showing last week.
What bothers me is that she in her confessionals talk about how she's beaten everyone and how people aren't strong as they give off, or the crap about Aneesa. If she has all this animosity towards Aneesa, why didn't she have the vote switched to save Jenn and leave Aneesa last. [B]Why, because assuredly Aneesa would have probably called her out and beat her in a duel.[/B] Despite the Aneesa bashing outside of her present, she is game savy enough to not cause a ripple in the voting that will leave Jenn/Derek last.
I think the duels are almost predetermined, but not quite. I mean, for example, last week we saw Aneesa vs Paula in Back Off and Dunbar vs MJ in The Elevator. From the previews, we see this upcoming week Jenn vs Diem in Push Over and Evan vs Derek in Spot On. Rachel imo does not want to face Aneesa or Tori in Push Over, Back Off, or The Elevator. she'd imo lose all 3 to either player.
I think the Tori/Aneesa Duel will prove who is the strongest lb for lb.[/quote]
i have said this for sometime that there is a group of unprovens:Brad, Mark,Tory,Rachel, Diem who don't have to do anything they could have stayed home till the final 5 because evan and Landon having been caring them. It wouldn't suprise me after all of Landon's work he ends up losing based on a technicality
[quote=Dartagnan;76267]Xplode, MJ does not win. He makes top 5 though. If you read the thread, you will surely find it.[/quote]
I thought it was Aneesa, Brad, Rachel, Brittni, Mark and Evan?
[quote=xplode;76290]i have said this for sometime that there is a group of unprovens:Brad, Mark,Tory,Rachel, Diem who don't have to do anything they could have stayed home till the final 5 because evan and Landon having been caring them. It wouldn't suprise me after all of Landon's work he ends up losing based on a technicality[/quote]
Actually I think four of your five are proven, excluding Diem, but in many cases Diem has proven herself too. Let's see Mark and Rachel have dominated the game with Landon and Brittini, and Brad and Tori have proved themselves every Challenge they have been on. And despite her being scared, Diem has pretty much completed every mission.
Darock, you bring up good points, but I have to disagree.
Why would Mark carry Rachel? Freezing as Puck was a team effort, and without Rachel holding on they would have lost.
Aneesa has already stated that Rachel is ******* her off, but will never call her out. So that's that.
I honestly love Tori, and she has proven herself, but she has shown that her mental strength isn't enough to get her through, and she has yet to win a mission.
[quote=Darock1713;76285]Yeah, and it sucks imo.
At least Mark is proven decent in the challenges, so him not being in the duel is tolerable. As for Rachel - (I brace for the pro-Rachel fans). Thus far through 7 episodes, she has been blah in regards to her competitive spirit. Still to this point, she hasn't won anything without Mark, and something tells me that she won't win the next challenge either, but saved by a reputation and an alliance. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt after a decent showing last week.
What bothers me is that she in her confessionals talk about how she's beaten everyone and how people aren't strong as they give off, or the crap about Aneesa. If she has all this animosity towards Aneesa, why didn't she have the vote switched to save Jenn and leave Aneesa last. [B]Why, because assuredly Aneesa would have probably called her out and beat her in a duel.[/B] Despite the Aneesa bashing outside of her present, she is game savy enough to not cause a ripple in the voting that will leave Jenn/Derek last.
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I agree with you on some of the points you make. While I like Mark probably second best behind Landon, I think it is stupid nobody ever calls him out. He is one physically fit player, and does well in challenges, but he is the eldest competitor and he went down pretty quick in the challenge against Landon to protect "the ole ribs". Mark is going to be my only hope when
[spoiler] Landon gets injured and goes home to ..cough..Brad..cough..[/spoiler]
I wonder why Dereck and MJ call out Evan. If I were them, I would call out Brad. I feel Evan is stronger than Brad when he puts his mind to it, and he has been in the Duel the most, so just about every game he has played and is a bit more at "ease" than throwing in a brand new player, say Brad and Mark.
I hate Rachel. I think she is disgusting person and player. If you look on her myspace, she has a whole album of recent events with Aneesa and her as the best of friends. Evan also appears in the album. And how she jumps ship at the end and goes from Mark to Evan is so shady. I will never regard her as the best female challenge contestant. She might be the one with the most muscles, but this isn't a bodybuilding contest. She plays the game the worst, screwing over whomever to get the prize.
[quote=Zachary;76293]I thought it was Aneesa, Brad, Rachel, Brittni, Mark and Evan?[/quote]
It is.
Winners: Evan and Rachel
2nd Place: Mark and Brittini
3rd Place: Brad and Aneesa
I think. If I am wrong, feel free to correct me!
[quote=LCbaby;76303]I wonder why Derek and MJ call out Evan. If I were them, I would call out Brad. I feel Evan is stronger than Brad when he puts his mind to it, and he has been in the Duel the most, so just about every game he has played and is a bit more at "ease" than throwing in a brand new player, say Brad and Mark.
I hate Rachel. I think she is disgusting person and player. If you look on her myspace, she has a whole album of recent events with Aneesa and her as the best of friends. Evan also appears in the album. And how she jumps ship at the end and goes from Mark to Evan is so shady. I will never regard her as the best female challenge contestant. She might be the one with the most muscles, but this isn't a bodybuilding contest. She plays the game the worst, screwing over whomever to get the prize.[/quote]
Probably because Evan gets scared. In my opinion, Brad is stronger than Evan in every way.
Why is that shady LC? It could have been a strategic move. Maybe it was forced. I mean I don't like shadiness much, but isn't that part of the game? In my opinion, she isn't that bad in that department.
[quote=LCbaby;76305]It is.
Winners: Evan and Rachel
2nd Place: Mark and Brittini
3rd Place: Brad and Aneesa
I think. If I am wrong, feel free to correct me![/quote]
I digress. I'm not correcting [B]anyone [/B]right now in [B]this[/B] thread because it'll just create more confusion. :buba_phone:
[quote=Dartagnan;76298]Actually I think four of your five are proven, excluding Diem, but in many cases Diem has proven herself too. Let's see Mark and Rachel have dominated the game with Landon and Brittini, and Brad and Tori have proved themselves every Challenge they have been on. And despite her being scared, Diem has pretty much completed every mission.
Darock, you bring up good points, but I have to disagree.
Why would Mark carry Rachel? Freezing as Puck was a team effort, and without Rachel holding on they would have lost.
Aneesa has already stated that Rachel is ******* her off, but will never call her out. So that's that.
I honestly love Tori, and she has proven herself, but she has shown that her mental strength isn't enough to get her through, and she has yet to win a mission.[/quote]
I said they were unproven in the sense of duel wins which they have 0 and it matters [U]only [/U]what you do in their as it keeps you in the game. Also in the sense that besides Tori non of them have won a challeng in the last 5 years. gasp.
Tori is in this category as she only beat melinda in which is no challenge at all with her size advantage.
[quote=Dartagnan;76318]So you are trying to say that you can only be proven if you go into an elimination round? That makes no sense. So somebody like Darrell isn't proven?[/quote]
I think that is true and untrue as Darrell hasn't shown us his "strength" but on the other side has done enough to not go into an elimination round, well, yet.
[quote=Dartagnan;76309]Probably because Evan gets scared. In my opinion, Brad is stronger than Evan in every way.
Why is that shady LC? It could have been a strategic move. Maybe it was forced. I mean I don't like shadiness much, but isn't that part of the game? In my opinion, she isn't that bad in that department.[/quote]
I think Brad is stronger than Evan in some points, but lacks in others. While what I am about to write probably will carry through like I dislike Brad, and I truly don't. I am just indifferent to him, as he isn't anything special to me. He has a nice body and a cute girlfriend though.
Brad beats Evan in mental toughness. However, Brad also has to deal with Tori, her game, her emotions, and eventually - her departure. Brad is playing for two. Evan is playing for just himself. And although Evan hasn't won any challenges since the first, I feel Evan is physically stronger than Brad.
Evan has won before, and Brad keeps coming up empty each Challenge show.
This is all personal opinion, and I respect those who feel Brad is stronger. I think I can, atleast, count on TJ to agree with me.
I think the next two duels will prove Evan's worth. The fact that Brad is rarely called out, if ever, is lame to me. Landon and Mark is doing all the winning and work, and he just coasts along to the end. At least this "coasting along" is addressed with Evan, and people continue to pick him for duels.
I think its silly that we get one or two "big guy" duels per Challenge season. What everybody WANTS to see is the Evan versus Marks, the Brad versus MJ, the Landons versus Marks, the Landon versus Evans.
[QUOTE=LCbaby;76323]
[B]Evan has won before[/B], and Brad keeps coming up empty each Challenge show.
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Evan has yet to win a challenge. Or were you speaking more about individual challenges?
[quote=molds13;76331]Evan has yet to win a challenge. Or were you speaking more about individual challenges?[/quote]
My bad there, for some reason I thought it was Evan and not Derrick who won on The Island.
I take away that statement. Neither Evan or Brad has won a challenge, so even playing field in that aspect.
[quote=LCbaby;76323]I think Brad is stronger than Evan in some points, but lacks in others. While what I am about to write probably will carry through like I dislike Brad, and I truly don't. I am just indifferent to him, as he isn't anything special to me. He has a nice body and a cute girlfriend though.
Brad beats Evan in mental toughness. However, Brad also has to deal with Tori, her game, her emotions, and eventually - her departure. Brad is playing for two. Evan is playing for just himself. And although Evan hasn't won any challenges since the first, I feel Evan is physically stronger than Brad.
Evan has won before, and Brad keeps coming up empty each Challenge show.
This is all personal opinion, and I respect those who feel Brad is stronger. I think I can, atleast, count on TJ to agree with me.
I think the next two duels will prove Evan's worth. [B]The fact that Brad is rarely called out, if ever, is lame to me. Landon and Mark is doing all the winning and work, and he just coasts along to the end.[/B] At least this "coasting along" is addressed with Evan, and people continue to pick him for duels.
I think its silly that we get one or two "big guy" duels per Challenge season. What everybody WANTS to see is the Evan versus Marks, the Brad versus MJ, the Landons versus Marks, the Landon versus Evans.[/quote]
I agree, and disagree. I'd like to see Brad in an elimination round every once in a while, because I do feel like he sometimes gets a free ride through the whole game. But in a way I feel like it's not exactly his fault that he hasn't been in an elimination, he just hasn't been called out. He has friends that vote for him, and whoever is at the bottom may be friends with him and not want to pick him, or be afraid to go against him. That's just my opinion though.
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