[quote=molds13;76331]Evan has yet to win a challenge. Or were you speaking more about individual challenges?[/quote]
We all know he hasn't won but as I stated earlier he in this season has went in 2 times soon and I think more soon and yet he has only lost one individual face off that was to CT does this make him provenyou tell me?
Also Brad I don't really but the only person he has faced off in a long time to has been C T which was crap in which he won by DQ. He was serously getting worked over there by CT in that challenge though
[QUOTE=xplode;76348]We all know he hasn't won but as I stated earlier he in this season has went in 2 times soon and I think more soon and yet he has only lost one individual face off that was to CT does this make him provenyou tell me?
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I've already answered this question, but I have a feeling you won't want to search through the 300 pages to find it.
[quote=LCbaby;76323]I think Brad is stronger than Evan in some points, but lacks in others. While what I am about to write probably will carry through like I dislike Brad, and I truly don't. I am just indifferent to him, as he isn't anything special to me. He has a nice body and a cute girlfriend though.
Brad beats Evan in mental toughness. However, Brad also has to deal with Tori, her game, her emotions, and eventually - her departure. Brad is playing for two. Evan is playing for just himself. And although Evan hasn't won any challenges since the first, I feel Evan is physically stronger than Brad.
Evan has won before, and Brad keeps coming up empty each Challenge show.
This is all personal opinion, and I respect those who feel Brad is stronger. I think I can, atleast, count on TJ to agree with me.
I think the next two duels will prove Evan's worth. The fact that Brad is rarely called out, if ever, is lame to me. Landon and Mark is doing all the winning and work, and he just coasts along to the end. At least this "coasting along" is addressed with Evan, and people continue to pick him for duels.
I think its silly that we get one or two "big guy" duels per Challenge season. What everybody WANTS to see is the Evan versus Marks, the Brad versus MJ, the Landons versus Marks, the Landon versus Evans.[/quote]
LC, I agree with you in your opinion that Evan is physically stronger than Brad. And no, not because I like Evan, because I know that is what some of you are thinking anyway.
This is Evan's worst challenge, athletic wise. He was a force to be reckoned with on Fresh Meat and The Duel, and even to a certain extent, Gauntlet 3. His nerves get the best of him. I agree Brad is tougher than him mental wise, not physical wise. IMO, if Brad and Evan were ever in a physical Duel, Brad would lose.
I don't think its lame that Brad doesn't get called out, I think its bullshit that there are three people in the alliance, and Evan is the only one who gets called a snake. Even here on Vevmo..
I do love Brad though, always have. Evan just entertains me more.
[QUOTE=LCbaby;76305]It is.
Winners: Evan and Rachel
2nd Place: Mark and Brittini
3rd Place: Brad and Aneesa
I think. If I am wrong, feel free to correct me![/QUOTE]
The best I'll give you is "close."
[quote=LCbaby;76305]It is.
Winners: Evan and Rachel
2nd Place: Mark and Brittini
3rd Place: Brad and Aneesa
I think. If I am wrong, feel free to correct me![/quote]
Oh yeah I think it may be Evan and Brittni first place (cause she made that post) or Mark and Brittni for first place and everything else is okay.
[QUOTE=Zachary;76363]Oh yeah I think it may be Evan and Brittni first place (cause she made that post) or Mark and Brittni for first place and everything else is okay.[/QUOTE]
Think, think, think could become "know" by a review of the thread. All of the answers are here...
[quote=LCbaby;76305]It is.
Winners: Evan and Rachel
2nd Place: Mark and Brittini
3rd Place: Brad and Aneesa
I think. If I am wrong, feel free to correct me![/quote]
[spoiler]Swap Mark and Brad.[/spoiler]
[quote=cjslife;76370]1st: Evan & Rachel
2nd: Mark & Aneesa
3rd: Brad & Brittini
I'm like 90% sure. I remember something on Brittini's facebook aout her coming in 3rd.[/quote]
Thanks for the answer hooray
[quote=tjhallow;76355]LC, I agree with you in your opinion that Evan is physically stronger than Brad. And no, not because I like Evan, because I know that is what some of you are thinking anyway.
This is Evan's worst challenge, athletic wise. He was a force to be reckoned with on Fresh Meat and The Duel, and even to a certain extent, Gauntlet 3. His nerves get the best of him. I agree Brad is tougher than him mental wise, not physical wise. IMO, if Brad and Evan were ever in a physical Duel, Brad would lose.
I don't think its lame that Brad doesn't get called out, I think its bullshit that there are three people in the alliance, and Evan is the only one who gets called a snake. Even here on Vevmo..
I do love Brad though, always have. Evan just entertains me more.[/quote]
I agree that Evan would take Brad in a physical duel. And while the beginning of the season I formed this negative opinion on Evan, slowly (and by proving himself in duels) I have retracted my opinion and gained an opinion positively. His likability has greatly increased each episode. After Isaac, I am solely reliant on Evan to pipe in with something humorous and he never fails me.
I just think it is kind of unfair that Brad and Mark, who are arguably the most important members in the Threesome Alliance, go unnoticed and unscathed. Evan gets the crap that Brad deserves to get, as does Mark. Landon keeps winning and producing, keeping Brad and Mark safe unless the bottom calls them out, which is not happening. There was a daily where Evan, Mark, and Brad discussed Landon and how they need him for a few more wins. They are using his amazing ability to their benefit. So while I say shame on Brad and Mark, it is also shame on the bottom who do not call them out.
Instead, they call out Evan, over and over again. I am sure you gain confidence with each Duel. Somebody fresh and new in the Duel would make the most sense, say Brad. But whatever, I never considered Dereck that good of a competitor so if he wants to be sent home, so be it.
Maybe my indifference and judgment of Brad is because of my admiration and love for Landon. I know what is coming...and I do not like it, not one bit.
I wonder how Mark got stuck with Aneesa, and I wonder if they were able to pick their partners or they were assigned by success, or something.
I do long to see Mark's response to having Aneesa as a partner. Is Aneesa the sole reason that Mark comes in third or is his performance hindered in a different aspect?
Brad and Mark may deserve it, but they don't get it because they aren't so blatant and rude with it. No offense to Evan, but seriously, he made it that way.
LC, Aneesa was the reason why Mark ended up in third.
[quote=Dartagnan;76387]Brad and Mark may deserve it, but they don't get it because they aren't so blatant and rude with it. No offense to Evan, but seriously, he made it that way.
LC, Aneesa was the reason why Mark ended up in third.[/quote]
I do not see how Evan is such a snake while Brad and Mark is not. The Paula situation definitely may have some impact, but I feel that the people who deserve to "talk the talk" is the ones that keep on winning. Whether it is a challenge, or a duel - a win is a win.
I guess there is no solution because the boys at the bottom are too plain scared of going against Brad or Mark. So while I take my frustration out on Brad, it is truly shame on Dunbar, MJ, Dereck, etc for not picking the right opponent.
[quote=LCbaby;76382]I agree that Evan would take Brad in a physical duel. And while the beginning of the season I formed this negative opinion on Evan, slowly (and by proving himself in duels) I have retracted my opinion and gained an opinion positively. His likability has greatly increased each episode. After Isaac, I am solely reliant on Evan to pipe in with something humorous and he never fails me.
I just think it is kind of unfair that Brad and Mark, who are arguably the most important members in the Threesome Alliance, go unnoticed and unscathed. Evan gets the crap that Brad deserves to get, as does Mark. Landon keeps winning and producing, keeping Brad and Mark safe unless the bottom calls them out, which is not happening. There was a daily where Evan, Mark, and Brad discussed Landon and how they need him for a few more wins. They are using his amazing ability to their benefit. So while I say shame on Brad and Mark, it is also shame on the bottom who do not call them out.
Instead, they call out Evan, over and over again. I am sure you gain confidence with each Duel. Somebody fresh and new in the Duel would make the most sense, say Brad. But whatever, I never considered Dereck that good of a competitor so if he wants to be sent home, so be it.
Maybe my indifference and judgment of Brad is because of my admiration and love for Landon. I know what is coming...and I do not like it, not one bit.[/quote]
You have been saying what I have been thinking (and trying to say) all along. Why is Evan the only one that gets all the heat? I'm still pissed about Mark's interview saying he was okay with Evan being the fall guy.
I guess all the Evan hate comes from Gauntlet 3 "trim the fat". Which I think is BS because everyone single male on the Veteran team went along with it, including Brad. He may not have been in all of the conversations, but when they were throwing challenges, Brad had a smile on the face just like everyone else. Remember the challenge that CT threw and Brad tried to convince Coral that he wasn't faking it.
I guess what I'm trying to say that I'm sick of Evan getting all the heat all the time, when they all do it. Some cast members just have better edits than others. I love Mizfit's post the other day about Derrick and Brad.
I think Landon is getting the short end of the stick as well, but what can do you? I really hope the three person alliance is something that is addressed at the reunion.
[quote=LCbaby;76391]I do not see how Evan is such a snake while Brad and Mark is not. The Paula situation definitely may have some impact, but I feel that the people who deserve to "talk the talk" is the ones that keep on winning. Whether it is a challenge, or a duel - a win is a win.
I guess there is no solution because the boys at the bottom are too plain scared of going against Brad or Mark. So while I take my frustration out on Brad, it is truly shame on Dunbar, MJ, Dereck, etc for not picking the right opponent.[/quote]
See I never said they weren't snakes, I responded to the fact as to why he receives most of the heat.
Well in my opinion, Evan is kind of the head, and they all went for him to get rid of it. In my opinion he played this game as if he were on top, so they were probably sick of it.
[quote=Dartagnan;76387]Brad and Mark may deserve it, but they don't get it because they aren't so blatant and rude with it. No offense to Evan, but seriously, he made it that way.
LC, Aneesa was the reason why Mark ended up in third.[/quote]
What has Evan done on Duel 2 that has been so bad? Sure he's sarcastic but he's not like he was on Gauntlet 3. Seriously, I don't think Evan has done anything wrong this challenge. If your talking about screwing over Paul, that's her fault. She picked Dunbar, when she was supposed to pick MJ. Other than that, Evan has done nothing wrong, but get more screen time than other people.
[quote=Dartagnan;76402]See I never said they weren't snakes, I responded to the fact as to why he receives most of the heat.
Well in my opinion, Evan is kind of the head, and they all went for him to get rid of it. In my opinion he played this game as if he were on top, so they were probably sick of it.[/quote]
Dart, I love you, but I am going to have to disagree. Mark is playing the game like he is the king. And Brad is everyone's friend. Landon's a beast, so Evan is easier to pick on.
[quote=tjhallow;76403]What has Evan done on Duel 2 that has been so bad? Sure he's sarcastic but he's not like he was on Gauntlet 3. Seriously, I don't think Evan has done anything wrong this challenge. If your talking about screwing over Paul, that's her fault. She picked Dunbar, when she was supposed to pick MJ. [B]Other than that, Evan has done nothing wrong, but get more screen time than other people. [/B][/quote]
That's probably the main reason though.
[quote=Zachary;76405]That's probably the main reason though.[/quote]
I think that is why he gets more heat on here. If even had less confessionals, no one would say anything. I don't get it. Evan annoyed me to no end on Gauntlet 3, all cocky and sexist but I just don't see what he's doing wrong to get all the hate on the Duel 2.
TJ, I honestly don't think Mark plays like that. But then again that is just a differing of opinions.
I really think most older fans just don't like Evan and it carries on, but I think what you pointed out is exactly why he is so disliked.
To be honest, him winning only bothers me because he feels as if though everything that happens to him was wrong.
[quote=Dartagnan;76408]TJ, I honestly don't think Mark plays like that. But then again that is just a differing of opinions.
I really think most older fans just don't like Evan and it carries on, but I think what you pointed out is exactly why he is so disliked.
To be honest, him winning only bothers me because he feels as if though everything that happens to him was wrong.[/quote]
Well if he goes in four duels, and does well on the final mission, how can it bother you? He didn't coast to to the end like Mark. Or did just coast because he's a good guy like Brad. Everyone was against him from day one.
[quote=tjhallow;76413]Well if he goes in four duels, and does well on the final mission, how can it bother you? He didn't coast to to the end like Mark. Or did just coast because he's a good guy like Brad. Everyone was against him from day one.[/quote]
As in Davis picking him, he needed a reason. Nehemiah picking him was f****** gutless. Sure four Duels is very commenrdable but it is hard when he does
I totally respect your opinons, but we will agree to disagree yes?
Some of you are ignoring that vevmo has told you that Evan, Mark and Brad are in an alliance and are playing the game together. Their interviews and OTFs are all part of that plan. They are playing production and the viewers as much as they are playing the rest of the cast.
If you are going to critique their roles, at least do so knowing that you are being played.
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